tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post1313078806451334361..comments2024-02-14T02:30:36.732-05:00Comments on The Blog of Helios: Linux Reaches Out To Portland - Lindependence 2008Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13978117986484281976noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-32921155938263515592008-10-29T09:28:00.000-06:002008-10-29T09:28:00.000-06:00> I am going to assume it was some mis-guided l...> I am going to assume it was some mis-guided little 10 year old girl throwing a hissy.<BR/><BR/>That's what I like about you Ken, your way with words. :)<BR/><BR/>Unless you get one a lot closer to the east coast and the timing is just right, I'll never manage to make it to one. However, I could burn some CD's of whatever distro you want and mail them to you. I'd offer my distro of choice, but I doubt you really want to start your newbies off with Slackware. :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-38121791106985398092008-10-28T17:47:00.000-06:002008-10-28T17:47:00.000-06:00No Catman, I don't think so. Pete may not care fo...No Catman, I don't think so. Pete may not care for me much but he signs his name when he posts....IP is from Germany anyway so far as I can tell. Not losing any sleep over it...whoever it was got straightened out so if they aren't going to sign their name, I am going to assume it was some mis-guided little 10 year old girl throwing a hissy.<BR/><BR/>hAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13978117986484281976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-35468953257891209622008-10-28T15:55:00.000-06:002008-10-28T15:55:00.000-06:00I can just imagine who that detractor was before {...I can just imagine who that detractor was before {{**cough-PP-cough**}}. Petards will continue to decimate their side of the gene pool while trying desperately to hurl mud over the wall at the rest of us natural-selection survivors. Others will disagree but still show respect - shake their hands and march on. <BR/><BR/>Don't let it get you down. Keep going on with this stuff and keep encouraging others to do the same. If there is a way beyond being funded by the "community", keep going!FelixTheCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05365833098913665635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-60837695034399516822008-10-28T15:07:00.000-06:002008-10-28T15:07:00.000-06:00Hi, guys - please send me an email at awilliamson ...Hi, guys - please send me an email at awilliamson AT mandriva DOT com with your address (I'm sure we have it somewhere, but just in case :>) and an estimate of how many discs you need, and I'll get you some 2009 discs when our stock arrives. Thanks!<BR/><BR/>Adam Williamson<BR/>MandrivaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-9678467227675551492008-10-28T06:05:00.000-06:002008-10-28T06:05:00.000-06:00Hi Ken, Just saw this on the Mandriva Forums and w...Hi Ken, <BR/><BR/>Just saw this on the Mandriva Forums and wanted to mention something if I could.<BR/><BR/>First off, Manny is right. The number of people you had come in isn't nearly as significant as the quality of folks walking through the door. Those people like what they saw and possessed it. They will show it to others and it will grow from there.<BR/><BR/>Did you just leave linux alone when you discovered it. What if helios II grows from one of those numbers? Some would shudder at the notion.<BR/><BR/>A side point if I may. The low turnout may have been more a matter of unfortunate timing than anything else. This election has taken the nation by the neck and hasn't yet let go. It may be no wonder you had low turn out in relation to your expectations. Don't sweat it. Someone was just looking for a target for their sour grapes.<BR/><BR/>RickAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-61659898428499043612008-10-28T05:55:00.000-06:002008-10-28T05:55:00.000-06:00Hey Christian, You were missed Brother but not for...Hey Christian, <BR/><BR/>You were missed Brother but not for your camera but for your smile and friendship. No worries on your absence...had I not been recently, ahem...liberated, my absence would have been noted as well./<BR/><BR/>hAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13978117986484281976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-54309169824288172062008-10-28T01:40:00.000-06:002008-10-28T01:40:00.000-06:00Hi Helios,Thanks so much to you and Larry for hunk...Hi Helios,<BR/><BR/>Thanks so much to you and Larry for hunkering down and doing it again with Lindependence there in Portland. Lindependence _does_ count because it reaches new users _and_ it gives hope and inspiration to the community to see your outreach picked up by the folks there in Portland. You are duplicating yourselves, you and Larry. That is a spark that we need. <BR/><BR/>I'm sorry that I couldn't come up and film it for the DTP. Money and time weren't in the cards for me. I would have faced a rebellion from my gf, and as much as I love freedom, I love her more, so I couldn't risk it.<BR/><BR/>If you need to rest for a while, please do so, because this movement is a long, long march. We have so much to do. <BR/><BR/>We are making progress. I know you are concerned about lack of corporate support for the _name_ of Linux, but consider this: Linux is growing in the mobile space, embedded space, desktops, notebooks, servers, and everywhere else. It will just take a while for people to grok the concept of freedom.<BR/><BR/>Here is a quick story. The kids at our public middle school project in SF still don't grok freedom all that much, despite a presentation I gave _in the Xubuntu lab_ that they use 3 x per week. They were sitting right there with FOSS machines in front of them, and they still didn't get it.<BR/><BR/>But they do now have a huge brand acceptance for OpenOffice.org because they see it come up every time they do their essays. And they now call Firefox "The Internet". These are the unspoken expectations that they accept as given fact. Slowly, we will match those expectations with the _concept_ of freedom.<BR/><BR/>Rest when you need to do so, my brother, but never give up.<BR/><BR/>Christian Einfeldteinfeldthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08177956664196325696noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-6048800009411223302008-10-28T01:24:00.000-06:002008-10-28T01:24:00.000-06:00I've posted a link to this blog on the Mandriva Fo...I've posted a link to this blog on the Mandriva Forums.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-8742494827260201462008-10-28T00:57:00.000-06:002008-10-28T00:57:00.000-06:00Hello Ken,Glad to hear you made it back home in le...Hello Ken,<BR/>Glad to hear you made it back home in less than two pieces ;-}<BR/><BR/>I have been one of those people who has been quietly watching from the sidelines applauding the work you and the other volunteers have done with Lindependence.<BR/><BR/>I have been working with Linux for the past 18months and have rediscovered my joy of computers. I now share that joy with as many people as I can.<BR/><BR/>I have introduced FOSS and Linux to a number of people and have donated extra computers I have to people who want to try out Linux. The response has been fantastic.<BR/><BR/>Reading about Lindependence and the other projects has convinced me to get out into the community and do something to promote and advocate for FOSS and Linux.<BR/><BR/>Thank you for showing how hands on action is worth more than words on a screen.<BR/><BR/>Regards,<BR/>StorytellerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-48355467606315658832008-10-28T00:03:00.000-06:002008-10-28T00:03:00.000-06:00I just walked in the door and sat down at my compu...I just walked in the door and sat down at my computer after that marathon layover in Phoenix...yes coming from Lindependence. It's one am in the morning and this is what I find. Well, my first inclination was to just crapcan the remark because it serves no purpose but to discourage others...but I'm not going to do that. I can see why you didn't bother to leave a name...<BR/><BR/>Lindependence is a fantastic idea. It re-emerges the install-fest as a viable way to spread the word and help others. AND...it's a novel way of doing it. Now I am going to address your point with the same sensitivity that you left yours.<BR/><BR/>Lindependence doesn't exist to increase your self worth and esteem in direct and positive correlation to the number of new Linux Users we create. Neither does it exist for your entertainment. The people that traveled from out of state did it either on their own dime or from donations freely given by others. We paid for our own hotel rooms, meals and yes, maybe a smattering of frivolity. I didn't see you digging into your ass pocket to assist with any of that.<BR/><BR/>You want honesty...ok pal, here it is. <BR/><BR/>It will take 500-750 dollars to pull off each Lindependence project and make it work the way it is supposed to. We've tried Public Service Announcements and free advertising. It just doesn't give us the coverage we need to make it happen. When the founders of the project have to continually spend over 1000 dollars of their own money on each event, I promise you, there probably won't be a third.<BR/><BR/>Specifically, one particular owner of a Linux News Site has ordered his staff to crapcan any article that mentions the need for funding a project. His insistence on that detail has fairly put a jackboot on the throat of what we do. I am guessing him and Dan Frye would be good friends. That site was our first line of announcements and we sort of hoped that the people reading the announcements would read between the lines and do what had to be done. Some did...but not near enough. Do you know the sum total of donations that came in for this project in Portland?<BR/><BR/>You couldn't operate your car for one month on what we received. <BR/><BR/>The ones that do donate are the ones that do it time after time after time. I can fairly well assume you are not one of them.<BR/><BR/>So I am terribly sorry to disappoint you. Should you want to see more numbers the next time, maybe you ought to shut up and give us what we need to do our job.<BR/><BR/>Enthusiasm and love of what we do has proved to be less than marketable when it comes to purchasing airtime.<BR/><BR/>hAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13978117986484281976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-80345111495925886882008-10-27T23:36:00.000-06:002008-10-27T23:36:00.000-06:00So through all the hype and bull crap, you only pu...So through all the hype and bull crap, you only pulled in 60 people? Maybe now you'll see just how miserably you failed and leave us alone.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-3811117437376140972008-10-27T19:21:00.000-06:002008-10-27T19:21:00.000-06:00Exactly right! All the pretty graphics in the wor...Exactly right! <BR/><BR/>All the pretty graphics in the world would never have convinced me to climb the no Microsoft mountain.<BR/><BR/>I came to Linux because 'their' product would not allow me to use "MY" computer the way I wanted to. <BR/><BR/>Once I was convinced that Linux would do what I wanted, I made the decision to switch. Not a decision made lightly, I knew there would be a learning curve and a few trade-offs. :-)<BR/><BR/>I suspect we in the GNU/Linux/FOSS community will always be most successful by demonstrating the advantages to the user.<BR/><BR/>Fancy window dressing is just a big plus.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the man on the scene report h<BR/><BR/>AmenditmanAmenditmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12345522537672251667noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-33702016210753792582008-10-27T19:14:00.000-06:002008-10-27T19:14:00.000-06:00Helios...don't stress the numbers. If you drew ev...Helios...don't stress the numbers. If you drew even the low estimation the first few hours, and only half of them left with a disk, you've done more in one day than most Linux Users have done their entire lifetime. You get slammed often my friend and I not only thank you for the work you do and the time you've done it. I thank you for tolerating the occasional idiot that cloaks their obvious envy in venomous prose.<BR/><BR/>You help us all remember that we need to do our part.<BR/><BR/>Manny OAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-9402656181069072382008-10-27T18:06:00.000-06:002008-10-27T18:06:00.000-06:00Community meets community. I like it.Community meets community. I like it.kozmcraehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03477116396443886503noreply@blogger.com