tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post7074073879858411560..comments2024-02-14T02:30:36.732-05:00Comments on The Blog of Helios: Are You Afraid? You Will Be...Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13978117986484281976noreply@blogger.comBlogger66125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-29194816127531598392009-07-21T10:10:06.259-05:002009-07-21T10:10:06.259-05:00Brett, let me work on it. We just lost our delive...Brett, let me work on it. We just lost our delivery vehicle for The HeliOS Project so we are busy trying to find a way to replace her...give me a day or two and I will see what we can put together.<br /><br />hAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13978117986484281976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-59895330544186856452009-07-21T09:49:24.277-05:002009-07-21T09:49:24.277-05:00Is there an updated, reliable list of games for Ub...Is there an updated, reliable list of games for Ubuntu, including ones you can purchase?<br /><br />I'd find that EXTREMELY handy.Bretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09455439104371337011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-21707058084006768472009-07-19T20:31:51.579-05:002009-07-19T20:31:51.579-05:00$5 for not just one but THREE whole games that loo...$5 for not just one but THREE whole games that look awesome, and running natively on Linux!!! Win. Purchase made. Even if I can't get them to run on my machine (which I will), $5 is token support for a forward-thinking company.<br /><br />Re: licence key. This is the case with pretty much every game on Windows. Expecting it to be different in Linux is just daft.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09956294971304538473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-47606861619288302682009-07-19T03:51:34.015-05:002009-07-19T03:51:34.015-05:00Just bought my copy, altered others via Twitter.Just bought my copy, altered others via Twitter.Simon Hayneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02660767551431793439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-70774136724432947242009-07-18T15:43:20.289-05:002009-07-18T15:43:20.289-05:00"And had Helios had the minimal decency to wa...<b>"And had Helios had the minimal decency to warn everyone about the license key issue"</b><br /><br />@ Lance. No I think anonymous has a point. I mean, helios failed to take into account that he alone out of several thousand people voiced outrage over the games having licensing triggers.<br /><br />Helios is indeed pure trash.<br /><br />While we're playing games, he's out delivering hand-built computers to needy kids.<br /><br />What a piece of total garbage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-55388215816330261652009-07-18T15:40:59.381-05:002009-07-18T15:40:59.381-05:00"And had Helios had the minimal decency to wa...<b>"And had Helios had the minimal decency to warn everyone about the license key issue"</b><br /><br />@ Lance. No I think anonymous has a point. I mean, helios failed to take into account that he alone out of several thousand people voiced outrage over the games having licensing triggers.<br /><br />Helios is indeed pure trash.<br /><br />While we're playing games, he's out delivering hand-built computers to needy kids.<br /><br />What a total piece of gargage.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-16636049577171394132009-07-18T11:36:02.629-05:002009-07-18T11:36:02.629-05:00@ anonymous.
Dude, I don't even know how to t...@ anonymous.<br /><br />Dude, I don't even know how to talk to someone like you. Since when does a license key represent "sabotage"?<br /><br />"And had Helios had the minimal decency to warn everyone about the license key issue, I would not have wasted my money supporting behavior that I regard as nothing short of criminal."<br /><br />Uh...if you read any part of the download page and instructions, it is made obvious that you will be receiving a license key. Maybe, just maybe helios gave his readers enough credit to trust them to read before they downloaded. Not sure about that but that's my guess.<br /><br />Over 3000 people have downloaded the game set from this website according to helios. And that was as of yesterday. Lord knows what it is today. As the comments show, you are the only one out of thousands that think helios took part in criminal behavior.<br /><br />Besides that, if something this so very insignificant can make you lose respect for a man that builds hundreds of computers for poor kids a year...<br /><br />I personally am not sure he's gonna miss you.Lance K. Forrester - Flint MInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-35369413403604720602009-07-18T09:59:28.340-05:002009-07-18T09:59:28.340-05:00@Michelle Minkin:
My reference to the World of Go...@Michelle Minkin:<br /><br />My reference to the World of Goo is due to two things, I haven't been able to make it run fast enough to be playable, and if this is an example of what Helios considers acceptable behavior from a software company, I probably would have gotten a similar nasty surprise had I been able to make it run and be impressed enough by it to buy the game.<br /><br />"What the hell do you want pal? You want everything free? People have to eat. And I am not a big fan of "IP" but I also recognize that a person's work on the market must be compensated. Wonder how you would like it if your employer decided that you just were not worth the salary and made you work for free. Oh...I should have asked...you are not a full time student are you? You sound like some of the bubble-headed leftists I taught with at NYU."<br /><br />I bought the game under the obviously mistaken assumption that an organization supporting Linux knew not to do the software sabotage thing. There are no justifications for an intentional failure mode in software. I paid for it, and now I can't trust it to behave because if their logic is so defective that this is considered acceptable, I'm not going to risk any portion of my system to what their computer logic must be like.<br /><br />"There's a lot wrong with the Windows/Microsoft model but to malign a company trying to make some money is plain stupid. They have a right to assign license keys to their individual games. It's how they pay their employees and put a roof over their families heads."<br /><br />I don't consider anyone to have the right to sell designed-defective software (and that is what any form of key system is) at all. They could have at least put up a large notice before the purchase was committed to.<br /><br />"I notice you did not congratulate them for not ladening them with DRM or Regions coding."<br /><br />You cannot region code software for a generic platform, otherwise I might have expected to see that, and a key is a form of DRM, simple, but DRM nonetheless.<br /><br />I expected to be disagreed with by some people, the Windows world has conditioned people to accept all sorts of bad behavior. Fine, I can now expect the state of software in the Linux world to deteriorate now that this sort of thing has passed muster.<br /><br />@Lance K. Forrester<br /><br />"What the hell is that supposed to mean? Well, at least you supported the effort. At five bucks, there really isn't any excuse not to..."<br /><br />They considered it acceptable to design the software to fail under specific circumstances, it they think that is OK, there is no telling what other rubbish is lurking in there. And had Helios had the minimal decency to warn everyone about the license key issue, I would not have wasted my money supporting behavior that I regard as nothing short of criminal.<br /><br />I've said my bit, Helios having destroyed his credibility with me I will now go away and not bother this forum again. The responses tell me that there is no further purpose to commenting here. (I am sure that this will raise some cheers. Quite sad, really.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-73242608527897586622009-07-18T09:02:23.225-05:002009-07-18T09:02:23.225-05:00Wow. $5?? Just...wow.
Let me tell you this: I jus...Wow. $5?? Just...wow.<br /><br />Let me tell you this: I just bought the game. Now this by itself wouldn't mean much if it weren't for the two facts:<br /><br />1. I (normally) hate horror games.<br />2. I have NEVER EVER purchased ANYTHING with my card. I like cash-n-carry.<br /><br />So, you've just made me break two things in my life. One of which I was really proud of. But I guess if I really must break the tradition, this is probably the best way there is. For that I am grateful.<br /><br />Hopefully, Penumbra will continue to be profitable and more companies will make native games for Linux. It's about damn time.<br /><br />Best of luck to the makers of Penumbra!Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11078881986876048025noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-71310261201194163192009-07-18T08:42:15.774-05:002009-07-18T08:42:15.774-05:00Probably soon the platform will not be important a...Probably soon the platform will not be important and any game from any platform will run on any other platform.<br /><br />Streaming of course :)<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-w56hQxmnYMikihttp://www.epoch.co.ilnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-28437061658977189922009-07-18T05:53:54.359-05:002009-07-18T05:53:54.359-05:00My forum entry was deleted over night without comm...<b>My forum entry was deleted over night without comment.<br /></b><br /><br />One of the reasons my non profit stopped putting the official Ubuntu distro on the hundreds of computers we give away is the seeming black-armband mentality in those forums. You may have been caught in a political crossfire as well because I am not liked there. Most anyone who links to my blog in a Ubuntu forum is struck from the record.<br /><br />I had the audacity to point out a problem or two and mentioned that those problems have been present for three release cycles.<br /><br />Seems some people are more sensitive to well-meaning criticism than others.<br /><br />Thanks for the attempt.<br /><br />hAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13978117986484281976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-60449279864837976372009-07-18T03:52:53.500-05:002009-07-18T03:52:53.500-05:00Was very excited about this game. Previously bough...Was very excited about this game. Previously bought and downloaded World of Goo and liked it, though it wasn't quite as interesting as I had hoped. Had even greater expectations for this game and paid for two copies.<br /><br />Imagine my disappointment when the game failed to install. Maybe I missed something, but it looks like it may have been ported specifically to Ubuntu as I got a bunch of Gtk "critical" errors.<br /><br />(I'm running KDE/Lenny which uses Qt rather than Gtk.)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-82282538670775696392009-07-18T03:02:27.392-05:002009-07-18T03:02:27.392-05:00I linked from German Ubuntuforums to your post, He...I linked from German Ubuntuforums to your post, Helios, also recommending to support native game development for Linux.<br /><br />My forum entry was deleted over night without comment. <br /><br />So much for gaming on Linux / Ubuntu.<br /><br />For the games: I also bought them, they run great on Ubuntu Jaunty on a Ati 9850 grafics. Thank you a lot for the hint - 1.17 Euros a game is really a good price.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-43252490133553090642009-07-18T02:10:28.346-05:002009-07-18T02:10:28.346-05:00I do agree, I don't like license keys. I don&#...I do agree, I don't like license keys. I don't believe in proprietary software. Even less license keys. And east DRM (which isn't a problem with this game). I do however believe in paying for real work (as this game surely has been). <br /><br />I want more people developing for Linux, so out of the two wrongs (proprietary, people say linux-desktop-users won't pay) i'd say the second is most important at this time, and since I'm already a hypocrite (having Adobe Flash on my computer although I normally use Gnash), I'll go on and buy the game.<br /><br />A bit sad that I probably won't be able to play it though... :/Velmonthttp://tech.velmont.net/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-39456118602090199012009-07-18T00:13:07.827-05:002009-07-18T00:13:07.827-05:00"Epic fail, Helios."
I spoke with Ken a..."Epic fail, Helios."<br /><br />I spoke with Ken about 10 PM and at last count, there are just over 3800 people who disagree with you. Those were direct download hits from the blog of helios. And a bit over twice that which downloaded from Slashdot.<br /><br />"I now have a set of programs that I will probably never bother with as they cannot be trusted to behave due to an intentionally constructed failure mode."<br /><br />What the hell is that supposed to mean? Well, at least you supported the effort. At five bucks, there really isn't any excuse not to...<br /><br />Hell, you could have gotten it for free if you had mentioned it in a forum or blog. Ken had 10 sets to give away.<br /><br />Watch for the black helicopters...they are everywhere.<br /><br />Lance ForresterLance K. Forrester - Flint MInoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-43929191805568687882009-07-17T23:58:18.037-05:002009-07-17T23:58:18.037-05:00I think it is now safe to stop trying to make the ...<b>I think it is now safe to stop trying to make the World of Goo demo work.</b><br /><br />You gotta be kidding me. I've installed the World of Goo on over 100 Linux machines and only two have had problems that could not be fixed. Compare that to the two I have in my own house running windows that puke every time I try to play it.<br /><br /><b>You do the Linux world no favors by encouraging people to drag such obnoxious Windows-world behavior as activation codes into it.</b><br /><br />What the hell do you want pal? You want everything free? People have to eat. And I am not a big fan of "IP" but I also recognize that a person's work on the market must be compensated. Wonder how you would like it if your employer decided that you just were not worth the salary and made you work for free. Oh...I should have asked...you are not a full time student are you? You sound like some of the bubble-headed leftists I taught with at NYU.<br /><br />There's a lot wrong with the Windows/Microsoft model but to malign a company trying to make some money is plain stupid. They have a right to assign license keys to their individual games. It's how they pay their employees and put a roof over their families heads.<br /><br />I notice you did not congratulate them for not ladening them with DRM or Regions coding.<br /><br />Funny how that got by you.<br /><br />Chelle MinkinMichelle Minkinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-7046857280683921972009-07-17T23:42:37.384-05:002009-07-17T23:42:37.384-05:00Epic fail, Helios.
You do the Linux world no favo...Epic fail, Helios.<br /><br />You do the Linux world no favors by encouraging people to drag such obnoxious Windows-world behavior as activation codes into it. I now have a set of programs that I will probably never bother with as they cannot be trusted to behave due to an intentionally constructed failure mode.<br /><br />I think it is now safe to stop trying to make the World of Goo demo work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-42136784842081448302009-07-17T21:14:24.508-05:002009-07-17T21:14:24.508-05:00When the game was in beta, it was a free download ...When the game was in beta, it was a free download (available for Linux at the time!) and I tried it out. It scared me out of my chair and my friends and I would take turns at the hotseat until we got too unnerved. This comes from a guy who can generally watch scary movies and play Resident Evil without jumping -- this game is real thing.<br /><br />I'm so glad they've decided to do a Linux re-release, and this is a bundle priced to sell. Thanks, Frictional Games.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07673844482763663638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-20511741672462568132009-07-17T20:54:57.350-05:002009-07-17T20:54:57.350-05:00Oh Yeah, those things went quick...three of them a...Oh Yeah, those things went quick...three of them are waiting until Sunday or monday to publish to see if they cannot produce some residual interest after the rush.<br /><br />These games do rock. I refuse to play them at night.<br /><br />hAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13978117986484281976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-55001893607646732912009-07-17T20:13:59.936-05:002009-07-17T20:13:59.936-05:00I'm probably too late on the offer, but I did ...I'm probably too late on the offer, but I did blog and Tweet about it anyway. I also went ahead and bought a copy. This would be another great way of testing out the various distros and hardware.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17612760065098765059noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-37543002653317028182009-07-17T14:31:22.841-05:002009-07-17T14:31:22.841-05:00Bought and downloading as we type. I tried the dem...Bought and downloading as we type. I tried the demo of one of them and loved it. I am only too happy to support these guys. And at only 5 bucks even I can afford these games. Thanks for the link Helios. <br /><br />I will be off enjoying my new games. In about 2 hours, man, I need to switch to cable internet.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13034947744478159582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-83035906472040585042009-07-17T14:23:39.968-05:002009-07-17T14:23:39.968-05:00At that price, I just picked up 2 licenses.
DougAt that price, I just picked up 2 licenses.<br /><br />DougAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-77643536203758787712009-07-17T14:20:33.784-05:002009-07-17T14:20:33.784-05:00Here is my little write-up on the release of the P...Here is my little write-up on the release of the Penumbra Trilogy:<br />http://jaymansrealm.com/?p=351<br />I'm glad to see companies porting games over to Linux and helping to make one less reason not to ditch Windows.Jasonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11850830683414713991noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-10213356897023760872009-07-17T14:05:48.950-05:002009-07-17T14:05:48.950-05:00Actually, this game (as far as I remember) has had...Actually, this game (as far as I remember) has had a Linux version since they released the first part of the trilogy. I just recently purchased the trilogy (at a higher price) but I think I'll grab a second copy for my son at this price. :)<br /><br />Oh, and you may want to check out S2 Games and they're in beta for Heroes of Newerth (RTS) with a native Linux client. I bet if you asked them they get you a beta key. <br /><br />Might as well keep this ball rolling :)<br /><br />BeemerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-67195475778054776162009-07-17T13:16:16.557-05:002009-07-17T13:16:16.557-05:00This sounds really cool, and I'll have to chec...This sounds really cool, and I'll have to check it out this weekend.I really enjoyed Doom 3 because of the dark and spooky environment. This game reminds me of Doom 3.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com