tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post5658868707532299961..comments2024-02-14T02:30:36.732-05:00Comments on The Blog of Helios: Tykes Need Linux TooAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13978117986484281976noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-55188424863289718022009-03-15T21:55:00.000-06:002009-03-15T21:55:00.000-06:00Keep up the good work!Keep up the good work!R-Whitedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07754024957264667837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-55494690397006780292009-03-12T11:49:00.000-06:002009-03-12T11:49:00.000-06:00I have also found that families with computers can...I have also found that families with computers can benefit from Linux for the kids. I have placed a few because the kids kept messing up their parent's computer, and the parents cannot afford a second machine. The good thing is that they can do no damage outside their home directory.Grant Johnsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06772023212277928936noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-5479102001415227332009-03-11T19:06:00.000-06:002009-03-11T19:06:00.000-06:00Hi Ken,This is a great story and I couldn't agree ...Hi Ken,<BR/><BR/>This is a great story and I couldn't agree more. My son is 5 and has been using linux since he was 2. Yes, really using. I mean browsing file systems and pressing enter to launch cartoons initially, but he's already more than comfortable hunting entering his username and password, going through menus to find the application he wants. <BR/><BR/>Strange thing is he's not once asked me to make it easier to use or more like windows. ;)<BR/><BR/>Cheers,<BR/><BR/>Alan.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-68369282015948789392009-03-11T11:02:00.000-06:002009-03-11T11:02:00.000-06:00Thank you sir, for being an inspiration. I'm alre...Thank you sir, for being an inspiration. I'm already thinking of another project that I'd like to do. If it goes through, I'll blog it for sure. Oh, and KIDS RULE!!!Chadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10155736680995281157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-5566432801242711052009-03-09T16:25:00.000-06:002009-03-09T16:25:00.000-06:00@Anon2PP, is that you? Seriously, badly flawed log...@Anon2<BR/>PP, is that you? <BR/><BR/>Seriously, badly flawed logic and common sense. What you are suggesting is that everyone and their dog MUST re-prove EVERYTHING, don't take anyone's word for it. There is a reason we have scientists - they do research in areas not everyone else is going to look in. There is a reason we have astronauts and astronomers, to explore space where the rest of us don't have to. There is a reason we have folks that look over the kernel and other FOSS apps, testing them incessantly to see if they are secure, <B>so not every single person has to do so</B>. Catch my drift? <BR/><BR/>Also, and this may shake up your world a bit, there is a <I>HUGE</I> difference between having a clue and having absolute, total knowledge. A driver can know if a car handles well by driving it and listening to others talk about it <I>without having to know the engineering inside and out!</I> Wow! Go figure! <BR/><BR/>:facepalm: <BR/><BR/>As far as the angry feedbacks go, it happens on both sides of the fence (or all three sides if you include Mac, mac). You appear to conveniently ignore other respondents that "have no clue", as you so glibly put it. This is the age of the anonymous bully, and you will see this no matter what the subject. Some folks seem to simply get off on making life a living heck for others with no semblance or attempt at logic or reason. Even your own comment smacks of zealotry in a fashion. Ironic, isn't it?<BR/><BR/>You'll find plenty of emotion in this blog, yep, you will, mister. You'll also find plenty of good opinion backed up by some fact and a good smattering of anecdote. Haven't seen anything yet that is an outright fabrication, though.<BR/><BR/>Ah, once again, I feed the troll.FelixTheCathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05365833098913665635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-35534610961825265942009-03-09T05:37:00.000-06:002009-03-09T05:37:00.000-06:00I think Chel's point was that of simple sarcasm......I think Chel's point was that of simple sarcasm...with the horrible and sometimes threatening comments left in his last blog, I can see her point.<BR/><BR/>Ken though, is not your typical "zealot". He has actually went beyond talking and actually doing something, he took up python coding so "professionals" would talk to him. Want to talk about sad? When it gets to the point where "professionals" won't even take someone serious until they know how to open Eric? Do you have any idea the physical and emotional levels he operates on? Carrying hundreds of pounds of equipment a day, transporting it and setting it up? He opens himself up emotionally as well by actually getting involved in the lives of the people he helps? <BR/><BR/>He's constantly networking with businesses and individuals to gain the stuff he needs to do what he thinks he needs to do. After all of that he drives a vehicle that runs on prayer and daily maintenance and lives in a garage apartment. He obviously profits not from what he does.<BR/><BR/>My name is Andrew Magnus, not Anonymous. I believe the person who is "ridiculous" is named Michelle Minkin. I personally believe the world needs more zealots like Ken. I've had the distinct pleasure of being a volunteer for his organization. <BR/><BR/>Serious discussion is important. Seriously getting involved like Ken and his Directors have is critical. There comes a time when all the talking is done and doing is the next critical step. I personally would like to see from the community more of the latter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-63509260389605660062009-03-09T01:56:00.000-06:002009-03-09T01:56:00.000-06:00@anon2:"Unless they have published any papers or m...@anon2:<BR/>"Unless they have published any papers or maybe has read relevant books, taken college cources, maybe taken programming lessons or even peeked at 20% of the code, the zealots simply cannot have an informed opinion on the subject. They end up saying something clueless like "X is better" or "Y has better security". Excuse me? Better tell the world you have no clue about what you're talking about. These are complex topics that require serious discussion."<BR/><BR/>I more or less did ;-). But no one should care. It is the arguments and references that count, not "authority" (so I do not even bother to prove it).<BR/><BR/>However, I do want to point out a few obvious things:<BR/><BR/>1 Statistics: <BR/>Open Source software is less often compromised than Microsoft software using any metric. Even when the Open Source is a market leader like Apache. All of MS' excuses are simply that, excuses that would not be accepted in any (other) walk of life, like primary school.<BR/><BR/>2 People who do not acknowledge their errors are not to be trusted. MS never really have acknowledged any of their design errors, not even their most disastrous ones. (FOSS projects only rarely, if ever, would deny an error)<BR/><BR/>3 Anyone who in the face of a century of cryptographic and security research claims "security by obscurity" is better than openness is either delusional or a fraud. Therefor I conclude that MS security spokespersons are frauds. Their security policy is too.<BR/><BR/>WinterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-13324362485675585532009-03-08T19:16:00.000-06:002009-03-08T19:16:00.000-06:00@anon2It's unfortunate that you're wrong that ther...@anon2<BR/><BR/>It's unfortunate that you're wrong that there are people who would say that everyone is for what Ken does. I've met a few bigots who are dead set against giving minorities and the poor access to technology. <BR/><BR/>There are also still a few out there who would deny that linux is where it is. People who are content with windows often don't realize that linux exists (used to be the same with macs ~6 yrs ago) and won't accept it for some reason (it's probably that if someone doesn't want to believe it, they won't). I myself didn't know that linux was around until about 2 years ago, and have only used ubuntu for a year.<BR/><BR/>JordanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-50298542279506966112009-03-08T12:20:00.000-06:002009-03-08T12:20:00.000-06:00Beware though, there will be those that say this i...<B><BR/>Beware though, there will be those that say this is totally fabricated and the picture posted is computer generated.<BR/></B><BR/>Um no, the picture is irrelevant. I'm sure Ken did not post it here as proof, its merely as a documentation marker. The kids are cute though :)<BR/><BR/><B><BR/>Sad. Keep doing what you do Ken. You are inspiring many.<BR/></B><BR/>Nice strawman. Nobody is against him giving computers to kids. Also nobody is going to claim the picture is fake, that's ridiculous.<BR/><BR/><BR/>The general reason why people dislike linux zealots like Ken is not because they oversell linux, thats OK. Its mainly because they have _NO CLUE_ about OS design or kernel design or security design or anything at all. Unless they have published any papers or maybe has read relevant books, taken college cources, maybe taken programming lessons or even peeked at 20% of the code, the zealots simply cannot have an informed opinion on the subject. They end up saying something clueless like "X is better" or "Y has better security". Excuse me? Better tell the world you have no clue about what you're talking about. These are complex topics that require serious discussion. <BR/><BR/><BR/><BR/>Linux users are known to send angry or rude letters whenever their little os doesn't get the best possible coverage. Ask any magazine editor who has _EVER_ written an article on linux. Unless the article basically says "MS is the devil, you should go get linux" , you can rest assured that they will received some kind of "feedback"; of the rude kind.<BR/><BR/><BR/>http://www.wkowtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=9682258&nav=menu1362_2<BR/><BR/><BR/>Does this refresh your memory? Linux users harassed this person because she seemingly blamed ubuntu for her misfortunes.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-82790553047640245402009-03-08T07:08:00.000-06:002009-03-08T07:08:00.000-06:00I would be curious to know if you do any follow-up...I would be curious to know if you do any follow-ups with these families and offer them any training on the systems you install. Also, are there "windows relapses" any time after you offer them Linux based computers?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-17481879981376662692009-03-07T22:21:00.000-06:002009-03-07T22:21:00.000-06:00Kenneth, I watched your presentation for the City ...Kenneth, <BR/><BR/>I watched your presentation for the City Counsel's Technology Commission a couple weeks ago on television. You did a great job in presenting free software and the GNU/Linux operating system to the public awareness. Is that segment available to the public? I would like it to post on my website.<BR/><BR/>Jamal Avery - AustinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-65371766420476747562009-03-07T21:19:00.000-06:002009-03-07T21:19:00.000-06:00Bravo Ken. This is the work that needs to be done ...Bravo Ken. This is the work that needs to be done and I want to personally thank you and your Directors for doing it.<BR/><BR/>Beware though, there will be those that say this is totally fabricated and the picture posted is computer generated.<BR/><BR/>Sad. Keep doing what you do Ken. You are inspiring many.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com