tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post5019834749538679380..comments2024-02-14T02:30:36.732-05:00Comments on The Blog of Helios: 2008 State Of The Penguin Report - Part 1Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13978117986484281976noreply@blogger.comBlogger25125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-24978897297549217152009-01-19T06:46:00.000-06:002009-01-19T06:46:00.000-06:00It is coming this week. We've been inundated with...It is coming this week. We've been inundated with HeliOS Project installs and other project tasks that simply haven't allowed us time. It is on my calender to do this week and I promise you it will get done.<BR/><BR/>hAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13978117986484281976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-64147122251360674432009-01-18T16:59:00.000-06:002009-01-18T16:59:00.000-06:00so where is part 2 & 3?? I'm waiting on th...so where is part 2 & 3?? I'm waiting on the edge of my seat here!Bzhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07170828308200224157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-4688085189767224162008-12-10T08:10:00.000-06:002008-12-10T08:10:00.000-06:001)Has the bug regarding the Administrator Mode but...1)Has the bug regarding the Administrator Mode button been reported to KDE (I don't have time to search now)?<BR/><BR/>2)If it is fixed in Mint, have they sent the fix upstream?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-40590037392882158022008-11-27T05:36:00.000-06:002008-11-27T05:36:00.000-06:00Thank you about the wicd tip. I've been looking f...Thank you about the wicd tip. I've been looking for a reliable, distro-neutral GUI networking app that would handle wired and wireless and that would survive kernel updates and upgrades.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-45194940447481276672008-11-26T23:20:00.000-06:002008-11-26T23:20:00.000-06:00Helios, you bring some good things into the light....Helios, you bring some good things into the light. It is the small things like this dialog box that we simply learn to live with and forget that someone else might find it a stumbling block. Hard to get fixed though, many developers consider this kind of "bug report" a waste of their time. Did you catch Ms. Schroeder's blog? I think it might have been a good mate for this one.<BR/><BR/>Shame that our developers won't pay attention to the little things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-56494110287520026702008-11-26T22:43:00.000-06:002008-11-26T22:43:00.000-06:00You know, I've been coming to this blog for over t...You know, I've been coming to this blog for over two years and I've been either so entertained by helios' stories or involved in his projects that I just never bothered to check his grammar or spelling.<BR/><BR/>hum, NOW we seem to have some passive-aggressive behavior to evaluate.<BR/><BR/>And hello Dr. Nyland! Did you get my email? Thank you for your help in the past. It was exactly what I needed to make things happen.<BR/><BR/>Jesse Hopkins<BR/>San AntonioAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-3376092093361726182008-11-26T06:20:00.000-06:002008-11-26T06:20:00.000-06:00I was, however, struggling with your writing style...I was, however, struggling with your writing style. It comes off as fairly passive-aggressive (your tone is at time accusatory) and running a spell checker on it wouldn't hurt either. I'll be interested to see the next article. :)<BR/><BR/>Nothing passive about this piece. The author doesn't mask his intent or obvious bias. He does have an assertive writing style, many people do have trouble with assertive or confident authors. While you have no reason to do so, you might give my opinion here some weight.<BR/><BR/>I did run a spellchecker here. "distro", "uninstall" and every Linux application mentioned did red-flag the checker, everything else was fine. <BR/><BR/>+1 on dragged, a common mistake for a Texas Lad, or anyone for that matter. It's a common error. Bill Clinton made the verbal faux pas often and refused to be corrected by anyone for his improper grammar.<BR/><BR/>James NylandAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-29604607734918224362008-11-26T03:56:00.000-06:002008-11-26T03:56:00.000-06:00Fairly interesting article though I'm not sure you...Fairly interesting article though I'm not sure you're pointing out anything that hasn't been said many times already. Though if it's important enough I guess it can never be said enough.<BR/>I was, however, struggling with your writing style. It comes off as fairly passive-aggressive (your tone is at time accusatory) and running a spell checker on it wouldn't hurt either. I'll be interested to see the next article. :)<BR/><BR/>PS: "drug" is a substance, you meant "dragged" I think.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-30785747493091538722008-11-26T03:09:00.000-06:002008-11-26T03:09:00.000-06:00I've been using WICD for over a year now. It solve...I've been using WICD for over a year now. It solved having the card not waking up on resume.<BR/><BR/> The biggest issue I see with noobs is not having a clue about package managers on their systems.<BR/><BR/> Then they attempt to use Windows troubleshooting skills and start Googling, typing in old, outdated CLI commands that aren't even for their Distro, try to install from downloaded .Debs, RPM or tarballs and break the dependencies. <BR/><BR/> It's a bit weird hearing users of other OS's trotting out the objections that you have to use the CLI frequently, getting buried with comments from Penguinistas how that isn't true anymore.Then when they have an issue all the instructions from the Web search are CLIAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-80189162612503689382008-11-26T00:43:00.000-06:002008-11-26T00:43:00.000-06:00I couldn't agree with you more. Ergonomics, anyone...I couldn't agree with you more. Ergonomics, anyone?johnVhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06497086605831347026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-88476678688932901142008-11-25T09:17:00.000-06:002008-11-25T09:17:00.000-06:00Thank you for this article.I have installed Ubuntu...Thank you for this article.<BR/><BR/>I have installed Ubuntu Linux on five third-party machines, including one laptop. I have found some pertinent relationships within this tiny sample:<BR/><BR/>1. The less the user knows about "computers", the easier it is for them to use Ubuntu Linux.<BR/><BR/>2. A little bit of knowledge (think MS Windows) is very dangerous and leads to frustration.<BR/><BR/>3. iTunes is evil. After several years, two users willingly embraced Vista.<BR/><BR/>I cannot say if "a lot of knowledge" is less dangerous because I've not installed for that person yet.<BR/><BR/>For myself, who relative to the demographic we are talking about, would have "a lot of knowledge," I experienced two weeks of terror home-alone with Fedora 3 before I started to feel confident. Yet even during that period, I was immensely impressed with the whole shebang.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-5285900864527082772008-11-25T07:38:00.000-06:002008-11-25T07:38:00.000-06:00Are we to shoulder the responsibility for computer...<I>Are we to shoulder the responsibility for computer users who refuse to learn anything beyond a handful of mouse clicks to get their jobs done? ... Absolutely not.</I> <BR/><BR/>Thank you! I'm all for better UI's and more intuitive ways of working with data, but I refuse to babysit this category of user. Accommodating them would result in a Fisher-Price (TM) interface (no I don't mean Luna), which would still confuse these users with only one button on the screen.<BR/><BR/><I>No big deal, right? Just move your mouse down to the bottom of the box until you get the "spreader cursor" and drag it down...what's the big deal?</I><BR/><BR/>It <B>IS</B> a big deal. If it's not visible, it doesn't exist. If it is a "niggle" in a program I'm not already familiar with, I react the same way initially. Dialog windows should show all options.<BR/><BR/>The Network-Manager. Yes that is an application with a lot of promise and a lot of hair ripping issues. I haven't had a smooth ride with it yet. I can fix it myself if I need to, but don't expect a newbie to be able to do that. It really should be fixed!<BR/><BR/><I>There are some simple ways we can not only make it easier for everyone, we can teach people finally that a computer is not an appliance but a tool that needs maintenance as well as knowledge to work correctly.</I><BR/><BR/>Hear, hear!r_a_triphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01529235830659326169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-46595024606768527322008-11-25T07:21:00.000-06:002008-11-25T07:21:00.000-06:00you really need to polish your desktop themes. Wit...you really need to polish your desktop themes. With those colours no one is going to like Linux!, hehe.<BR/><BR/>Really? I've been getting his kde settings from him for months and his desktops are beautiful. And beauty it is obvious, is in the eye of the beholder.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-79213384109626244352008-11-25T07:11:00.000-06:002008-11-25T07:11:00.000-06:00I couldn't agree more. Mandriva was my last stop ...I couldn't agree more. Mandriva was my last stop before going back to Windows. It seemed that every distro I tried had at least one show stopper for me and what was frustrating is that everything else worked so well. It was always that "one thing" that blew the whole deal.<BR/><BR/>I was using PCLinuxOS for a while but it has problems of it's own. I read that helios puts Mandriva on the majority of his business clients machines and now I see why. It's not only the great control center, it's the fact that everything works and it's beautiful to look at to right out of the box. I guess you just can't out-mandriva Mandriva. It seems perfect without tinkering.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-31899557139328469312008-11-25T06:52:00.000-06:002008-11-25T06:52:00.000-06:00IMHO, this is one area where Mandriva is very good...IMHO, this is one area where Mandriva is very good indeed. Its control centre is absolutely brilliant and so intuitive. <BR/><BR/>I've just gone back to Windows for a short while to port a Qt app and I absolutely hate it. What seems obvious with Linux I scratch around to do in Windows. Of course, it's at least partly to do with what you're used to and hopefully these efforts by Helios will show more and more people that Linux is not hard to use.<BR/><BR/>Where Linux wins hands down is speed. Man, Windows is *slow*.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-8341255446262440202008-11-25T06:44:00.000-06:002008-11-25T06:44:00.000-06:00Helios, Thank You!Network Manager has driven me CR...Helios, Thank You!<BR/><BR/>Network Manager has driven me CRAZY in Ubuntu. I've spent hours on the forums trying to get the (pottymouth ammended) thing fixed and everytime I update the computer, I lose my wireless. I then trudge around fixing this and that and eventually, maybe days later it might work again.<BR/><BR/>Did as you said and installed wicd. <BR/>There were some problems initially with some of the setup options but inside of 10 minutes I had it handling my wireless and man is it good not to have to babysit my wireless application.<BR/><BR/>If you've done nothing else, you solved a huge problem for me.<BR/><BR/>Dennis Bean<BR/>KnoxvilleAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-69662420552720473382008-11-25T06:01:00.000-06:002008-11-25T06:01:00.000-06:00Death by a thousand cutsDeath by a thousand cutsAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-418003514331922762008-11-25T04:07:00.000-06:002008-11-25T04:07:00.000-06:00I've had many problems with the network-manager th...I've had many problems with the network-manager thing on ubuntu. I'm excited about this Wicd thing.Gregor Nekdohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18284665026345323577noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-45550975468192503092008-11-24T19:21:00.000-06:002008-11-24T19:21:00.000-06:00Thanks for sharing these experiences. I don't thin...Thanks for sharing these experiences. I don't think I'm patient enough to deal with such users but I do understand that they're the ones that set the User Interface standards, and this affects us all (i.e. there're no Clueless-Gnome and Advanced-Gnome.)<BR/>And, mate, you really need to polish your desktop themes. With those colours no one is going to like Linux!, hehe.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-42301922563842326672008-11-24T18:57:00.000-06:002008-11-24T18:57:00.000-06:00Wallpapers? You are exactly the kind of Linux Use...Wallpapers? You are exactly the kind of Linux User helios talks about. There's work to be done and all you want is his wallpapers?<BR/><BR/>Try typing into google "linux wallpapers" you bum. Now go play, the grownups are trying to get some work done.<BR/><BR/>Sandy Remmis<BR/>Long Island, NYAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-59637476255417635832008-11-24T18:39:00.000-06:002008-11-24T18:39:00.000-06:00I don't care anything about new linux users, just ...I don't care anything about new linux users, just post some of the wallpapers you show in your screenshots. Blogger lets you do slideshows on the side. Share the wealth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-51039933575670812592008-11-24T18:33:00.000-06:002008-11-24T18:33:00.000-06:00Yes, I think this guy is right. There are a milli...Yes, I think this guy is right. There are a million small things like the admin dialog box that mess people up. Those things are there in windows too but we have gotten to the point where we know where they are and correct them without thinking.<BR/><BR/>This is a good piece of insight, thanks for bringing this series to the rest of the users. Sometimes we forget we were new users too.<BR/><BR/>Ronnie Myers<BR/>MiamiAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-7145389047378574072008-11-24T12:14:00.000-06:002008-11-24T12:14:00.000-06:00I find your observations fascinating. I can hardl...I find your observations fascinating. I can hardly wait until the next installments. Nice work Ken, thanks.<BR/><BR/>Richiekozmcraehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03477116396443886503noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-67927544560044888682008-11-24T08:52:00.000-06:002008-11-24T08:52:00.000-06:00This happens even in Windows. I can't count the t...This happens even in Windows. I can't count the times I had users complain that their printer wasn't in the list of printers, when all they had to do was scroll the windows to the right. Of course, the default for Windows is to scroll vertically, but for the printer display window they chose to have it scroll horizontally. :(Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-3466758569725299002008-11-23T22:29:00.000-06:002008-11-23T22:29:00.000-06:00that when you clicked the link to open the dialog,...that when you clicked the link to open the dialog, the dialog box did open but the "Administrator Mode" button was concealed by a graphic that was not opened enough to see it.<BR/><BR/>ROFLMAO - I thought I was the only idiot that had that happen. MAN that is frustrating. I've completely uninstalled and reinstalled applications because I thought something was messed up with it. It took me forever to figure it out and I am nowhere near a new user. Thanks for letting me know I'm not the only dummy out there that has this happen to them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com