tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post4158434330821340524..comments2024-02-14T02:30:36.732-05:00Comments on The Blog of Helios: What's in a Name?Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13978117986484281976noreply@blogger.comBlogger83125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-73632439579757598162011-05-14T21:46:50.763-05:002011-05-14T21:46:50.763-05:00this is getting off topics but since it relates to...this is getting off topics but since it relates to one of helios concerns i'd like to share it.<br /><br />@anonymous in germany:<br />as someone who has been using unix since 1992, knowing the directory structure in and out, i still find it very disturbing if an application lets me start searching in the root directory. who do they think i am? i really do not have time to waste with that nonsense. all my files are in my home directory, please go there. any place outside the home directory is wrong!<br /><br />to add a petpeeve of mine, when the webbrowser offers to open a file with an application that is not listed, it lets me search in root as well. not even in /usr/bin, although both are very useless, there are 3000 files in /usr/bin<br /><br />could you have the decency to present me with something like the gnome menu structure and let me pick apps from there?<br /><br />please!!!<br /><br />greetings, eMBee.eMBeenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-37363568448230036902011-05-14T06:55:48.566-05:002011-05-14T06:55:48.566-05:00HATHATShahilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15320248067128702377noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-76613616375549933232011-05-09T12:17:31.622-05:002011-05-09T12:17:31.622-05:00Hello to Helios from Germany,
I like your work an...Hello to Helios from Germany,<br /><br />I like your work an addictions. But you are wrong with the cd-burning application.<br /><br />It is java. When it is java it should be platform independent. Don't blame the programmer that he hasn't done a second application to determine the home folder with the music.<br /><br />And for a sane brain: Who stores flacs local? They're on the server volume, of course. Looks like you assume a bit too much.<br /><br />But my strongest point is: Get your customers to know their file system. It was the worst thing that ever happend: Your files in windows and different default save path in every app. Chaos. I was called to restore files, but the user niether know their names, their location or the type. "It was on the desktop and now it is gone! Cry!"<br /><br />Start teaching them the basics. Force them to know the file system basics. Force them to know where to store files. Force them to choose the path.<br /><br />The java application has done it right!<br /><br />You can't trust and use a powerful tool without basic knowledge. And if they don't like to gain knowledge: Let them use Windows, please.<br /><br />Sometimes freedom has it's price.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-30737629979163312472011-05-08T09:35:49.101-05:002011-05-08T09:35:49.101-05:00Picture This
PicArtPicture This<br /><br />PicArtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-16161529820484196852011-05-08T09:08:14.262-05:002011-05-08T09:08:14.262-05:00@ Ben
Creative Raster Artwork Program
Funny...re...@ Ben<br /><br /><b>Creative Raster Artwork Program</b><br /><br />Funny...real funny.<br /><br />;-)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13978117986484281976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-61053130000482777822011-05-07T14:21:44.874-05:002011-05-07T14:21:44.874-05:00Its funny how people complain about bad naming cho...Its funny how people complain about bad naming choices and then you see the solutions are just as bad.<br /><br />The naming problem is going to be always a problem when you factor in foreign languages and people are never going to be happy.<br />Its unfortunate that the name can mean something else but your solution is excellent (all praise the GPL).<br />Best of luck.<br /><br />PS: I wont offer any more bad choices but from the ones mentioned I do like GIM (people can read it Jim or even make a mistake and say Gin which is funny)<br />and GNU Paint because it will be read `new paint` which I think is perfect.nikolahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07673826445368545159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-22456152897111976322011-05-07T10:31:26.313-05:002011-05-07T10:31:26.313-05:00What about Art ?What about Art ?santamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07060517765697715546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-764040737492206012011-05-07T09:54:24.069-05:002011-05-07T09:54:24.069-05:00From all the suggestions so far my top picks are:
...From all the suggestions so far my top picks are:<br /><br />Pinta<br />GlimpseMartin N.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-28573458487441942222011-05-07T09:14:54.310-05:002011-05-07T09:14:54.310-05:00GnuImageGnuImageMark Westhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17868636665614874806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-50932709049546909072011-05-07T09:13:35.254-05:002011-05-07T09:13:35.254-05:00GnuImageGnuImageMark Westhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17868636665614874806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-46174392827044174062011-05-06T19:07:09.207-05:002011-05-06T19:07:09.207-05:00Don't feed the trolls but if you must, please ...Don't feed the trolls but if you must, please keep the names as close to intent as possible. Keep the GNU in names that have it. <br /><br />GNU Paint, pronounced "new paint" and already suggeste above is in line with the author's intent. GNU Player might also be. The names are simple and unlikely to cause a trademark problem. You should also keep the original logos, like the cute fox etc. If you like these, please keep the money so you can keep doing what you do best.<br /><br />A lot of the negative feedback you get is directly incited by Microsoft. Got charter schools? <a href="http://www.prwatch.org/news/2011/02/9917/got-dough-how-billionaires-rule-our-schools" rel="nofollow">That's a Gates/Broad/Walton effort</a> and I know staff from them that are rabbid Microsofties. Microsoft's Technical Evangelists push all sorts of rubish on them and their other "channels". As you know from being personally assaulted at a gas station, the hatred bread by Microsoft is no laughing matter. They want you to repudiate your free software friends and quit doing what you are doing. See <a href="http://techrights.org/2009/02/08/microsoft-evilness-galore/" rel="nofollow">66 pages of Microsoft Evilness</a> (Comes vs M$ plex 2456) and <a href="http://www.groklaw.net/articlebasic.php?story=20071023002351958" rel="nofollow">Evangelism is War</a> (plex 3096) for insight on their dishonest and divisive tactics. <br /><br />The simple answer is to be proud of what you do, if a little ashamed of a few juvinile names. You are a real life Santa Clause, bringing toys and education to people who need it. Better yet, your magic free toys work better than the expensive, restricted "products" pushed at the local big box store. You can change the names if it's not too much trouble to keep up (pakcage management will be a real headache) but don't repudiate good parts of the free software community or feel bad about the great tools you have brought to so many people.twitterhttp://slashdot.org/~twitter/journal/217907noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-71049781698503967642011-05-06T13:52:55.781-05:002011-05-06T13:52:55.781-05:00Thinking about what you said that many kids are re...Thinking about what you said that many kids are really art talented, i could just thought about giving them the necessary workspace for them to express. Therefore the name I propose is ArtShop <br />As a way to offer them an art workshop, the name is easy to remember since it is very related to the tasks you can do, and there are no other similar applications with that name (from a quick google search)amnesiacandreshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15811474329690732782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-6150068371943962062011-05-06T13:40:22.816-05:002011-05-06T13:40:22.816-05:00For the GIMP:
"Pigment"For the GIMP: <br />"Pigment"FracturedSingletonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13299989345316136927noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-67192770698819463562011-05-06T12:39:30.634-05:002011-05-06T12:39:30.634-05:00I favor "GnuPaint"
It retains the GNU b...I favor "GnuPaint"<br /><br />It retains the GNU branding and therefore uniqueness, and it immediately tells you what it does. Very easy to remember, and very descriptive -- GIMP _is_ "the GNU paint program".Digitantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15090283720824042556noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-78831035840263606402011-05-06T08:23:52.066-05:002011-05-06T08:23:52.066-05:00And parents can become quite unreasonable about re...<b> And parents can become quite unreasonable about really dumb things when their children are involved.<br /></b><br /><br />You have no idea...what do you think started this whole thing?<br /><br />Thanks for understanding the big picture. <br /><br />I honestly don't have time for this, but I just got tired of the flack. Yeah, it's only been a couple of instances but I run a charity that caters to the needs of children. Piss off just a couple of parents, they make calls to the local fishwrap or slam us online and years of work get unraveled.<br /><br />Personally. between you and I and maybe the 40K that read this blog monthly, I only dislike the name because it's non-descriptive...any suggestions for the local rebrand?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13978117986484281976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-91358278184027768432011-05-06T08:15:00.741-05:002011-05-06T08:15:00.741-05:00saulgoode, you make good points, however you forge...saulgoode, you make good points, however you forget the target audience. Remember, doing a Google search to determine mindset only works for people who are on the internet, and tells you nothing about those who are offline. The people being served are not the sorts of people who are hip to the tech world. "Gimp" refers to the art program in the minds of people who have been on the net for years, but to those who are new to the world of computing, it probably still reminds them of e.g. "Little Moe with the gimpy leg". Yes, the actual word "gimp" isn't used much in today's world and younger people wouldn't be very familiar with it (I only know it from hearing the above quoted line in Home Alone, and from a book I read as a child that featured a character who had had polio), but the parents of those young people would be familiar with it.<br /><br />That said, I do actually agree with leaving it as "GIMP", but this ain't my project, and I don't face the prospect of dealing with angry parents. And parents can become quite unreasonable about really dumb things when their children are involved.Pizzasgoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01828072254267739737noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-36898461229299248542011-05-05T08:14:41.948-05:002011-05-05T08:14:41.948-05:00My suggestion is that the name by which you refer ...My suggestion is that the name by which you refer to the GNU Image Manipulation Program be...<br /><br />...GIMP<br /><br />NOT "the Gimp". By using all capital letters ("GIMP", not "Gimp"), one emphasizes that it is an acronym and not a word. <br /><br />Also, by including the article ("the"), you tend to anthropomorphize the reference, further dissociating from its intended meaning. By using just "GIMP", you would emphasize that the term is referencing the name of a computer program and avoid confusion with the term's other senses -- or do you commonly refer to applications as being "the Firefox", "the Photoshop", "the Audacity", etc? (Granted that originally the program was typically referred to as "the GIMP", but the developers have consistently discouraged this practice for nearly a decade.)<br /><br />I would also discourage further employment of the Urban Dictionary as an authoritative lexical reference and should hope that you are not presenting it as such to your beneficiaries. A web search of the term "gimp" using any of the search engines available will indicate a strong association of the term with the computer program; well over 90% of the first results will be in reference to the program, with the other results being about equally shared between its usage in embroidery and as a term of disparagement or fetishism (and these less tasteful results invariably linking to dictionary or encyclopedia entries, not websites per se). Quite simply, the predominant meaning of the word "gimp" is no longer what it used to be. In my opinion, it would best to further deprecate the former sense into inconsequence, not promote its employment as a term of derision (is such even needed?).<br /><br />There are a great many websites, resources, and forums dedicated to GIMP users sharing their experiences and expertise with using GIMP. I am not aware of any of them being unsuitable for children. GIMP user forums tend to be extremely welcoming to children (of all ages) and provide wonderful encouragement of creativity, sharing, and learning. It is, in my opinion, a grave mistake to hinder the recipients of your systems from locating these helpful resources and from participating in these GIMP user communities.<br /><br />If you wish to change your desktop menus to not include the term "GIMP", by all means do so. It is not uncommon for distros to modify their menus to provide generic terms such as "Photo Editor", "Internet Browser", etc, and such an approach can be beneficial regardless the application's name.<br /><br />If you wish to change GIMP's splash screen, I would also encourage you to do so. Individual users can readily customize their splash screens by placing image files in the "$HOME/.gimp-2.6/splashes" folder (all such images will be randomly selected). To change the system-wide splash screen (which appears if no user splashes are present), substitute your image file with "/usr/share/gimp/2.0/images/gimp-splash.png". <br /><br />Beyond these simple measures to minimize the "in your face" presentation of the word "GIMP", other changes would be largely untenable and serve to isolate your users from what is one of the oldest and largest non-corporate-sponsored, volunteer only, Free Software projects in existence and one of the most creative, child-friendly, and sharing communities on the Web. <br /><br />My recommendation is that you consider these detrimental aspects of your ultimate choice and whether it is a good idea to be obstructing your users from gaining the full benefit -- especially with regard to the social aspect -- of using the software you provide.saulgoodenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-15496330984880825642011-05-04T19:26:41.579-05:002011-05-04T19:26:41.579-05:00Gimp names:
LinArt
Free Expression
Artistry
Abstra...Gimp names:<br />LinArt<br />Free Expression<br />Artistry<br />Abstraction<br />Portrayal<br />Pictorialization<br />Etch A Sketch ;)<br /><br />Music Player:<br />RockIt!<br />Acappella<br />Tunezy<br />RapperJeff Smithhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05830660051166625121noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-63965510150770256062011-05-04T18:54:58.546-05:002011-05-04T18:54:58.546-05:00@ Anonymous #5
"Because these people are bei...@ Anonymous #5<br /><br />"<i>Because these people are being sensitive about the issues rather than looking for the positives that such challenges bring about in these people, and admiring them for any resourcefulness.</i>"<br /><br />I agree.Gavinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-66539954170852294512011-05-04T18:53:21.646-05:002011-05-04T18:53:21.646-05:00@ B Swiss
"Actually, if my experience is any...@ B Swiss<br /><br />"<i>Actually, if my experience is anything to go by, it's pretty much the non-handicapped that get rubbed the wrong way by stuff like this -- the actual handicapped get aggravated by the taboo about acknowledging their reality (and of course by intentional insults, simple prejudice, and unconscious dismissal of their real capabilities).</i>"<br /><br />I agree.Gavinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-71936743113208527752011-05-04T18:51:43.899-05:002011-05-04T18:51:43.899-05:00Anonymous #10/Liam - "My disability is that I...<b>Anonymous #10/Liam</b> - "<i>My disability is that I am offended by people who take offense at that which is not offensive.</i>"<br /><br />Logical flaw: stating opinion as fact.<br /><br />Offensive, from http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/:<br /><br />#3, "causing displeasure or resentment".<br /><br />Offensive, from http://dictionary.reference.com/:<br /><br />#1, "causing resentful displeasure; highly irritating, angering, or annoying".<br /><br />Offensive, from http://www.thefreedictionary.com/:<br /><br />#2, "causing anger, displeasure, resentment, or affront".<br /><br />The definition of offensive is rooted in opinion and cultural structures. Ergo, there is no universal definition of offensive that can be applied across the totality of humanity. You have merely stated your own personal opinion on this topic. And you are certainly entitled to your own personal opinion on this topic. (And I also think it is great that you are sharing your own personal opinion on this topic, regardless of you being anonymous or not (you were both ;) ); after all, this is how statistics are accumulated.) However, stating your own personal opinion on this topic as fact is illogical.<br /><br />In fact, being offended by people who are offended by the name of a FOSS project is emotionally equivalent to being offended by the name of a FOSS project, and is only once removed from being logically equivalent (ie, having an emotional reaction to an emotional reaction). I think you should be aware that you are, in fact, having an emotional reaction to this topic and not a logical one by definition of the word offensive.<br /><br /><br />As an aside, I think you should also look up the definition of the word improve. You will find that giving The GIMP a name that is less offensive to more people is improving it. And, as you have already stated, the GPL most definitely allows such things.Gavinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-79065435297857418922011-05-04T12:05:50.480-05:002011-05-04T12:05:50.480-05:00One wonders how the users will find any tutorials ...<b>One wonders how the users will find any tutorials for the renamed app. I think changing the name means, that you have just cut the user off from googling for help.</b><br /><br />Nope. The full tutorial for that app will be on the desktop, along with a brief explanation as to why the name change. Roughly 15 links to GIMP tutorials will be included in that document.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13978117986484281976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-36439988450121459082011-05-04T09:54:40.726-05:002011-05-04T09:54:40.726-05:00One wonders how the users will find any tutorials ...One wonders how the users will find any tutorials for the renamed app. I think changing the name means, that you have just cut the user off from googling for help.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-82253966664205820362011-05-04T08:32:01.285-05:002011-05-04T08:32:01.285-05:00@ the last anonymous poster.
I removed your post ...@ the last anonymous poster.<br /><br />I removed your post because ArtWorks was already suggested, in fact it was the first posting. "ArtWerks" would be close enough to that submission to be considered her idea.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13978117986484281976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-51532348342150099042011-05-04T07:04:12.408-05:002011-05-04T07:04:12.408-05:00For the music player.
Music Mogul or MusicMogulFor the music player.<br /><br />Music Mogul or MusicMogulAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com