tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post1614276627532052258..comments2024-02-14T02:30:36.732-05:00Comments on The Blog of Helios: Character-Assasinations-Ain't-UsAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/13978117986484281976noreply@blogger.comBlogger313125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-58258003738761520652012-01-04T01:20:43.797-06:002012-01-04T01:20:43.797-06:00While I dont understand why someone would air so m...While I dont understand why someone would air so much emotion about something they know nothing about, I will just think that shes a human being and has an opinion and thats her right.ChrisBartletthttp://importexporthomestudy.com/import-export-help/how-to-start-import-exportnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-19449483530455181682011-05-30T14:46:06.418-05:002011-05-30T14:46:06.418-05:00"I've tried Linux but..." is a stand..."I've tried Linux but..." is a standard line for Microsoft astro-turfers. The intent is to make it look like you're not completely one-sided.<br /><i>e.g.:</i> "I've tried Linux and I think it's a great operating system, but it caused my CPU to go into Nuclear Meltdown, and I'm still waiting for the EPA to give me the all-clear to move back home."Stephen Samuelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01436853369417158723noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-42639596363014452932011-05-30T05:49:36.456-05:002011-05-30T05:49:36.456-05:00Fordi said...
Forgive a Windows user for being com...Fordi said...<br />Forgive a Windows user for being completely unaware of something she's had no exposure to (and, as a result, reacting as Karen had)? Not something the community appears to be capable of as a first response.<br /><br />I guess you didn't read her e-mail where she admitted to "experimenting with Linux" in college. Your point fails. SHe is ignorant, dangerous, and a liar.tonhttp://xn--n3czx2a.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-10006760542174560732010-10-18T11:17:36.320-05:002010-10-18T11:17:36.320-05:00I still want to know what Linux distribution she a...I still want to know what Linux distribution she and her friends experimented with in college, or what she thought she was talking about when she said that. Did she think the discs contained, for instance, methamphetamine recipes?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-17473303521488483662010-02-13T22:42:01.860-06:002010-02-13T22:42:01.860-06:00Thank you, Ken for this post. I originally saw red...Thank you, Ken for this post. I originally saw red when I saw Karen's letter and was ready to have fire and brimstone showered on her, but reading your post this morning made me stop and think.Quranhttp://www.tauheed-sunnat.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-30706827095600591372009-08-31T14:32:49.441-05:002009-08-31T14:32:49.441-05:00Good for you by posting an apology. It makes me w...Good for you by posting an apology. It makes me want to read other posts on your blog.Kawikahttp://www.heftelstudios.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-68983637136670161312009-08-27T01:52:10.251-05:002009-08-27T01:52:10.251-05:00Thanks for sharing this great experience. It is ve...Thanks for sharing this great experience. It is very useful to get the information about the character assasinations easily. It is very amusing to read everything. It tells something good to me.<br /><a href="http://www.blogadv.net" rel="nofollow">buy blog posts</a>Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05688028265207884144noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-19524238465232546172009-08-24T05:34:42.210-05:002009-08-24T05:34:42.210-05:00As far as your response to that teacher is concern...As far as your response to that teacher is concerned, your being human or not being human is not the relevant issue.<br /><br />The relevant issue is that, as a Linux evangelist, you unfortunately share the level of (at times, genuinely alarming) fanaticism which tends to be standard among FSF advocates in particular.<br /><br />You do positive, beneficial work by donating hardware to children, and circulating Linux among people; I'm not going to argue with that. FOSS can genuinely be an extremely liberating thing.<br /><br />Focus on <b>that</b>. Don't focus on attacking people, don't focus on foaming at the mouth, and don't focus on seeing Microsoft as a threat. They seriously are not.<br /><br />Fear, paranoia, and fanaticism do not benefit anyone. They will not benefit you, they potentially harm the person that they are directed towards, and they certainly do not cause that person to be more receptive to the idea of potentially adopting Linux themselves.<br /><br />More than anything else, get rid of your fear. Stop being afraid of Microsoft; Linux users truthfully have nothing to fear from that company at all.<br /><br />Microsoft are their own worst enemy, but by going down to their level, the Linux community becomes <b>its'</b> own worst enemy as well.Mirshalakhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04223199207262646414noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-16393339941199751572009-03-27T06:20:00.000-06:002009-03-27T06:20:00.000-06:00You were in the right however this teacher wants t...You were in the right however this teacher wants to label it as her ignorant and arrogant attitude toward respecting a student finally caught up with her. To err is human and forgive divine but imagine how many years she's been in the practice? If that's the case how many children has she led down the mandatory Windows issues without fully using and disclosing Linux as an Operating system if she admits to using Linux then she knows more about then she lets out. In the bare bones structure and format you were right. <BR/><BR/>A teacher who proves that her close minded ethics finally caught up with her isn't just overly zealous she's the reasons why Linux has the troubled card of becoming a coffee table norm for computer users. Her issue stems from knowing the topic, having used Linux, and then saying just as easily that it's not free. Teachers like that make me disgusted with what educational and learning techniques they spread to the masses. Perhaps, someday we'll be punching that big red time clock for Bill Gates and she'll have helped delivering us from computer usage independence toward which operating system we use; no apologizes you did the right thing with what you wrote.Papa Bear Gamerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05105419088273524040noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-39878630508806968742009-03-20T10:33:00.000-06:002009-03-20T10:33:00.000-06:00Here in Sweden this kind of action is called a "ma...Here in Sweden this kind of action is called a "making a poodle". Meaning that you are right in fact, and did nothing wrong. But because of the harm your action can cause you and/or your organisation you have to apologize in public.<BR/><BR/>Ken had not, and still have not as far as I know, any reason to apologize!<BR/><BR/>(But considering the first part of this comment I understand why he did it.)<BR/><BR/>Keep up the good work!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-90623015255008277302009-01-31T14:31:00.000-06:002009-01-31T14:31:00.000-06:00Continue to be tactfull in your work man.Peoples m...Continue to be tactfull in your work man.<BR/>Peoples minds ought not to be enslaved. And that is exactly what MS has done.<BR/><BR/>Pitty the many folks like karen out there perhaps are YET to find out that MS is the one "limiting" the next generation.<BR/><BR/>We know and understand why it is that it can truly be said that linux, is superior where computing is concerned.<BR/> Yet, The concerted efforts put out at undermining linux can scare one to think of.<BR/><BR/>Continue doing what you're doing.<BR/>And more importantly. PRESERVE this, your guiding attitude that you've reverted to.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-66058837243519991222009-01-07T06:46:00.000-06:002009-01-07T06:46:00.000-06:00Thank you ..both of you.Thank you ..both of you.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-24709883927477841802009-01-06T17:28:00.000-06:002009-01-06T17:28:00.000-06:00Karen, i'm sorry. As a member of the linux commun...Karen, i'm sorry. As a member of the linux community i apologise for the fear you felt. <BR/><BR/>I didn't write any of the worst comments but i still said things i'm a ashamed of, especially in retrospect. <BR/><BR/>Bravo for joining such a disparate mob after facing such a storm. I feel more honoured to be part of this community now that you have joined it. Welcome in :)<BR/><BR/><BR/>Also many apologies to Neo's girl. I hope time heals all and that we can all learn from this.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-88987513982128394542009-01-05T21:39:00.000-06:002009-01-05T21:39:00.000-06:00I thank you for this post and must say that I am g...I thank you for this post and must say that I am guilty of the same first thought. I posted a comment on your first post agreeing with your anger when I myself felt the same. Being so technologically-adept, I often forget that the rest of the world is not the same. I can't tell you how many times I have been asked a tech question, start babbling on in esoteric terms as a response and get looked at as if I have three heads! This post reminded me of how excited I was about Windows back when that was the most easily-available option (with only early MacOS as the other -- Linux was not easily available or workable and especially not for beginners as I would've been). Even my mother uses Linux on one of her computers now with my guidance. I'm sure advertising plays a huge part in that how are you to know that Linux even exists when no one you know knows of it and you don't even think another OS is available besides MacOS let alone thinking to search for another option. I understand now that it seems she was doing what any person would've probably done in her position. Hey, if someone in class was idiot enough to whip out a Girls Gone Wild disk last week, why should this week be different? I would've done the same thing. I do hope she gives Linux a try -- even if her first taste of it was probably a bit biting (from her perspective, I imagine). We can really be a very supportive and moral group of Linux users when what we're doing is not being accused of being illegal. Please understand that many of us jump through so many hoops to stay in the right that when accused of not legal activities, it bothers us greatly and invalidates our efforts. Cheers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-18940503374640040422009-01-04T02:26:00.000-06:002009-01-04T02:26:00.000-06:00Wow, my 16 year old son just sent me a link to bot...Wow, my 16 year old son just sent me a link to both of the log items related to Karen and her e-mail to you about Linux etc. My first reaction was "I have to find her!". I am a tech teacher and IT Director for a small private school system in Oakland, Michigan. We have a computer for every student. Some have desktops and others have notebooks...<BR/><BR/>We are for the most part a Mickeysoft house but I've been working on making the move to open source for going on 3 years now. Every Windoze system has Firefox, Open Office and several other open source apps. We also have about 1/3 of our student systems running Ubuntu Linux 8.10.<BR/><BR/>Having said all that, I can't believe a "teacher" would send a message like that to anyone. Regardless of the follow up you posted about how sorry she was and how great of a job the school system is doing, it amazes me that a person like this is teaching our kids. To be so close minded about anything without having done any research should be illegal.<BR/><BR/>I honestly can't stand 90% of the teachers my own kids have because they are idiots and prove it to us just like this teacher did by sending you that message. Educated? Certified? Yes, but idiots no matter how you look at it. It really enrages me to think that these paper empowered pro's are "educating" our kids. No wonder our schools are cranking out kids that can't get jobs. We don't teach them anything valuable or actually usable in the real world.<BR/><BR/>What a nightmare we are creating for our own future...<BR/><BR/>Jon Foster.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10322682629575948440noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-9192845198274295462009-01-02T21:05:00.000-06:002009-01-02T21:05:00.000-06:00sugardave said:Oh, please enlighten us, Shill! Whi...sugardave said:<BR/><I>Oh, please enlighten us, Shill! Which OS is is that Microsoft gives out for free? Which applications? I mean real applications, not the "free" ones that come with their OS.</I><BR/>Read up on the MSDNAA. Some examples of applications and OS:es are (according to Wikipedia) Windows Server 2003, Windows Vista Business, Windows XP Professional and Visual Studio.<BR/><BR/>Now, to respond to someone who actually matters:<BR/><BR/>Ken, thank you for this post. Like most other people, I did what one would in more formal circles refer to as "facepalm". Then I read your response, and felt that you were overreacting. I'm happy that not all people who go to crusades against all proprietary software are trolls and actually have a conscience.<BR/><BR/>To a more civilized Free Software community!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-29345681505457962592009-01-01T13:31:00.000-06:002009-01-01T13:31:00.000-06:00Having married a teacher, I can appreciate what a ...Having married a teacher, I can appreciate what a difficult job she has. Trying to teach in overcrowded classrooms an agenda that is dictated by "No Child Left Behind" and it's focus on test scores is brutal. Even worse is the fact that teachers are punching bags for everyone, from students, to parents, to news media, to internet wankers. What many people don't realize is teachers have to be responsible for more subjects than tech. A teacher that isn't a computer specialist has much more ground to cover, therefore investigating new tech has an extremely low importance. They are more interested in having a consistent tool to work with to educate their charges.In the case of my school district, it's Apple. Another thing you might consider is that middle school grades are the most difficult to teach in- maintaining order to teach the ones who come to learn, is a far greater task than many seem to understand. Teachers don't have time to earn the respect of 35 kids and still cover the material, so disruptions have to be dealt with, just so the teacher can get to the mandated curriculum. For some reason, people seem to think that their little Billy is somehow more deserving of the teacher's time than somebody else's kid. These negative comments just show how little people know or care about how hard it is to teach. You have to be educator, surrogate mother, guardian, policeman, guidance counselor... Karen should get cut a little slack for not being a techie. She's got enough on her plate.<I>Steve</I>Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-4168668532748190722008-12-30T08:32:00.000-06:002008-12-30T08:32:00.000-06:00I doubt if anyone will get this far down, as I did...I doubt if anyone will get this far down, as I didn't even make it halfway, and I apologize if this point has already been made but I have not the time to read 300(!) comments.<BR/><BR/>I want to say something to those who still feel outrage that Karen decided to fire off a threatening e-mail instead of having a conversation, why and how is that any different than Ken deciding to post an outraged blog instead of calling Karen and asking how she could believe those things? In either person's case this entire situation would have turned out completely different. I'm guilty of the very same thing, on likely too many occasions, and I believe we should all try harder to change that mentality.<BR/><BR/>For the record I have nothing but the utmost respect and admiration for you Ken, you're a greater man than I and I mean no disrespect.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-70851145962409494742008-12-30T02:58:00.000-06:002008-12-30T02:58:00.000-06:00I'm going to have to agree with Lizard and Sugarda...I'm going to have to agree with Lizard and Sugardave. There was, granted, fault on both sides, but there needs to be more backing to claims such as the ones "Karen" made. Similar claims have been made to me, people think I am ignorant because of age, which only proves their ignorance. It is sad to see a teacher that can overreact like that, making those kinds of accusations without even a trickle of research (especially after they're always reaming me with the importance of research)Maxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00071293045756789859noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-65830366139581905052008-12-29T18:37:00.000-06:002008-12-29T18:37:00.000-06:00That's plain BS, man... just give up her name! Arg...That's plain BS, man... just give up her name! Argh!<BR/><BR/>Just kidding, Helios. Well done! As a repentment action, have her install slackware or gentoo on her personal computer by hand. :-) Or even better: blow her mind with any cool free desktop oriented distribution with compiz! I guess it will leave a better impression that paint/notepad.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-89504355779420117112008-12-23T15:56:00.000-06:002008-12-23T15:56:00.000-06:00I'm glad there was a peaceful resolution to this. ...I'm glad there was a peaceful resolution to this. Did someone in their IT dept. really say that it is illegal to remove Windows from their computers? This is just unreal!<BR/><BR/>It is a small example of why kids should be educated about the way Microsoft cons and manipulates people. If kids are going to be using Microsoft products at school, they should know about how MS operates. They should know how MS robs people of their constitutional rights to resell/reuse what they legally paid for (OEM licenses). The students shouldn't have to learn this stuff on their own, fifteen years later (as I did).<BR/><BR/>IT departments need to start showing students the mouldy side under the cheese, so the students can decide for themselves which direction to go. I am no "Linux fanboy". I'd be happy to see people learning about BSD too. Corporate conspiracies and disgusting business tactics have no business interfering with someone's education.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-65923463914819019552008-12-23T01:18:00.000-06:002008-12-23T01:18:00.000-06:00I don't know if this is real or it's made ...I don't know if this is real or it's made up.it can be true & can be not. but the one that I'm sure of in case this story is true is that you win more then you lost & Karen has lost more then she won. for sure now everyone now knows about your project in every place in the world, and you gained alot of compassion and support in different ways. & that is a big plus to your project.as for Karen, i believe you already knew the reaction that posting her email to public will cause even if u thought it will be on a limited scale. u told her u haven't thrown her to the wolves, but i can't help but to disagree on that in some way. how do u feel when u see a symbolic picture or a figure that ur first name written on it being burned & insulted in different way in all the world? let's all hope that the student don't come across the news about this & start publishing personal details about the teacher to draw the attention or even contact some publishers to offer them her full name for some cash. I hope you have a plan for this if it happensAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17825261203246414825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-5913518582346941122008-12-22T23:37:00.000-06:002008-12-22T23:37:00.000-06:00I didn't comment on the first article because I wa...I didn't comment on the first article because I was so desperate to see the second part... there are always two sides to a story and seeing one side always makes me anxious to see the other part. Of course, I was baffled at the ignorance of the teacher but I'm happy to see that there's a happy ending :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-70242236688416867332008-12-20T22:11:00.000-06:002008-12-20T22:11:00.000-06:00The Amiga syndrome strikes again!A feel truly sorr...The Amiga syndrome strikes again!<BR/><BR/>A feel truly sorry for all of you who haven't been able to get rid of such a bad syndrome.<BR/><BR/>I assume that most of you don't contribute a thing to such great software such as Drupal, Joomla, Open-Realty, etc. Yeah, truly productive open source software.<BR/><BR/>I can make such an assumption because the Amiga symdrome basically locks your brain just to do evil stuff.<BR/><BR/>To bad there's no cure the syndrome.<BR/><BR/>I'm really amazed that software packages like the ones I mentioned manage to get written even with guys like you messing up the open source community.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33801994.post-70420034363324837052008-12-20T11:37:00.000-06:002008-12-20T11:37:00.000-06:00Hi Ken!!! Ask Karen out. I'm here rooting for you ...Hi Ken!!! Ask Karen out. I'm here rooting for you two. All the best. And, perhaps, Linux makes a happy ending!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com